http://www.consumingworship.com The latest from the Consuming Worship Forum Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:53:43 GMT cwinfo@consumingworship.com is@consumingworship.com http://www.consumingworship.com http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=980&pMsgId=5226&msgId=5226&stMsg=1 I was listening in on a conversation between people who've read it. It seems the discussing centered around the fiction or non-fiction of the book. Apparently the author of the book is telling the story as told to him. He says he wrote the story "as told to him" thereby rendering doubt as to the truthfulness of the story. It's a bit freaky when God tells someone in modern days to go to a shack "to find emotional healing" (my words). However, why do we believe God would tell an old man to sacrifice his own promised son? Was Abraham really one of us? Was he really going to let another man sleep with his wife as a swap for his cowardly life? Yet he had the courage to "obey" God's command to kill his own son. In short, it's only in our own struggles that we find a story like "The Shack" believable. Call it God's voice, internal dialogue, or a natural drawing to find an answer. The bottom line is the Gentleman in the story found healing. Forum Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:07:13 GMT http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=980&pMsgId=5226&msgId=5226&stMsg=1 songsmithdan 2008-12-12T12:07:13Z http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=979&pMsgId=5225&msgId=5225&stMsg=1 I stand beside the drums (electronic) and play the bass. All I hear is the snap of the sticks on the pads. I want the real McCoy. When we crank them up so you can hear them, there always someone complaining it's too loud. I know conforming to the whims of non musical talent only stagnates the growth of any worship program. With a set of real drums in a booth of course, gives legitimacy to a "you'll just have to live with it " response to any complaint. I love it loud. It's tough as a bassist to interact with the drummer when you can't hear him. Forum Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:52:54 GMT http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=979&pMsgId=5225&msgId=5225&stMsg=1 songsmithdan 2008-12-12T11:52:54Z http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=979&pMsgId=5073&msgId=5073&stMsg=1 The big drive to electronic drums was mostly due to being able to control the volume level of the drums....when the drums dominate the live band sound nobody's happy....but, happily, there are ways to bring down volume level of an acoustic set that work quite well....and I believe there are also drum sticks (wiffle sticks?) that maintain the sound and feel of playing an acoustic set but don't have the impact (ie: volume) of regular drum sticks. Forum Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:36:44 GMT http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=979&pMsgId=5073&msgId=5073&stMsg=1 metalneck 2008-11-18T18:36:44Z http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=980&pMsgId=4374&msgId=4374&stMsg=1 Yes, have read. Looking to converse about it. Forum Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:23:35 GMT http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=980&pMsgId=4374&msgId=4374&stMsg=1 pjmllyd 2008-07-31T22:23:35Z http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=980&pMsgId=4297&msgId=4297&stMsg=1 Has anyone here read it? Forum Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:25:50 GMT http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=980&pMsgId=4297&msgId=4297&stMsg=1 crashdummy 2008-06-16T12:25:50Z http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=979&pMsgId=4072&msgId=4072&stMsg=1 I never thought I would say this, but they both definitely have their pros and cons. As a drummer, I love a good acoustic kit (a "real" drumset) but I have also had opportunity to play an electronic kit, and the ability to program in different sounds just opens up a whole new world. I would also add that I have not been seeing more electronic drum sets lately - Last fall was the first one I have seen in a church in about 7 years. Forum Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:59:23 GMT http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=979&pMsgId=4072&msgId=4072&stMsg=1 pisomojado 2008-02-06T12:59:23Z http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=979&pMsgId=4068&msgId=4068&stMsg=1 We have the opposite problem. Our drum set takes up half of our stage (not really, but it seems like it). With a Gibraltar rack, drum shield, two floor monitors, it's huge. Being a sound man, it's been a challenge to get the right mix with the drums if you don't have all of your musicians using sort of in-ear monitor. Forum Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:33:31 GMT http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=979&pMsgId=4068&msgId=4068&stMsg=1 crashdummy 2008-01-29T14:33:31Z http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=979&pMsgId=4064&msgId=4064&stMsg=1 Where have all the real drums gone? Most of the churches I've been to lately are using electronic drum pads and they are my pet peeve! (Can you tell that I'm a pianist? I'm not even sure if electronic drum pads is the right term). I'm sure they're much easier to move and much more cost effective. But you lose that sense of being truly enveloped by the vibrations of a real drum set. You lose the experience of being swept up in the music. So if you're considering a change, remember what you're losing when you gain convenience! Forum Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:22:20 GMT http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=979&pMsgId=4064&msgId=4064&stMsg=1 gabudell 2008-01-24T21:22:20Z http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=980&pMsgId=4063&msgId=4063&stMsg=1 Lately, I've been hearing that the term "Emergent" is becoming outdated. That makes me wonder about the emergent church in general. Is "Emergent" just a catch-phrase that means "seeker-sensitive?" Several years into this movement, has it made much of an impact on the church as a whole? Forum Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:15:03 GMT http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/cwol/bbs.jsp?fnc=lm&topicId=980&pMsgId=4063&msgId=4063&stMsg=1 gabudell 2008-01-24T21:15:03Z